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I have no idea what the heck skibidi toilet is, but this seemed like a somewhat decent art collab (though quite rough in a lot of aspects, though)!

For the good, I like that this art collab didn't just default to the usual boring slideshow presentation and instead opted for this sliding showcase angle instead. Don't get me wrong, it's still pretty much a slideshow at heart so I'm not giving you full points, but something about being able to slide everything smoothly to the side and seeing the art pieces as if they were statues on a table: it lends a bit more physicality and immersion to the experience and deserves some small amount of credit. The general presentation as well had a somewhat goofy charm to it all, especially with the title screen and transition into the gallery, albeit sometimes it was to the point of being garish and hurting my eyes.

As for the bad...while I can understand a lot of the mistakes I'm about to list off excused or brushed off as being part of some sort of goofy charm, I don't feel the same:

I felt like the text was very difficult to read due to the text box opacity being very low and the art pieces overlapping too much. Furthermore, the text was difficult to read because there were a lot of mistakes that could've stood to have been proofread a bit, and the text wasn't formatted properly and would even bleed off of the edges of the box at times. Again, I can understand if some of the typos were intentional, but still.

There was also some missing interactivity that I would've liked to see, such as being able to click on the art pieces to zoom into them or just have a clearer standalone view of them, as well as being able to click on artist's names to go to their NG profiles, thus making it easier to see their other art and potentially follow them.

All in all, it may not be great, but it's an ok art collab: always nice to see little community events like this.

MWMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM responds:

Thou know not skibidi toilet!? thou might not but join from England. Thou are belike settling, what's thy name?

TheMiamiDeSantos responds:

Nice review indeed, I have an animated series by which have some experimental elements, I'm looking forward people's opnion about it, if you can review some of my animations it will be an honor

Dreggsu responds:

Only in Oklahoma πŸ’€

G0ldenfire357 responds:

Bro put more work into this review than I did in my Skibidi ToiletπŸ’€πŸ’€πŸ’€

TigerPlushiefire responds:

Thanks for the review @FutureCopLG! dont might them, they are andrew tate/ insecure sigma persons bullies with daddy issues and bulling people back at middle school

Hmmm, I just felt kinda confused by this one. Maybe it's my fault for playing it as a single player, but the option was there, so keep that in mind.

While it seems like a decent 2D platformer in some respects, I just felt like the game was very repetitive and generic, lacking an intriguing core concept or satisfying feel to it all. It felt like once you've played it for a few minutes you've seen everything as it just keeps recycling the same enemies over and over and not introducing any new obstacles or mechanics. Aspects that could've been interesting, like the AI partner which you can somewhat guide, or the different world's gravity, or the upgrade system, lack focus and just feel token, not adding anything but just stuck on as if just by having them it'd make this plain game somehow seem better than it is. Eventually it gets some stuff like boss fights but for me that was too little too late as I had already quit from boredom.

The most interesting aspect of the game I encountered was when I died and I was left with only my AI partner, who I could still somewhat guide despite being dead by signaling him to move forward, but he would automate his jumps and attacks. This was a rather unique control scheme that could be interesting and reminded me of games like Gyromite, but it really felt like it wasn't intentional and the way to play. The AI was largely unreliable anyway, regularly getting stuck on things or falling into pits.

The controls felt terrible, in particular with the way jumps kept you moving forward with momentum despite no longer holding the forward button, which would usually kill your momentum in other platformers, made it very awkward and feeling like you're constantly sliding on ice. Combine this with the way enemies can just rush in quickly from the right and smash into you and you've got a real frustrating loop of damage that feels unavoidable.

To add to the pile further, I really disliked the unnecessary scanline filter, which only served to hurt my eyes.

I dunno, maybe there's something interesting in here that could be salvaged, but right now it just feels like an unfocused mish-mash with bad AI, bad jumping controls, and at its core just a rather bland and uninspired side-scroller. Again, maybe if you focused on that unique aspect of helping to guide an AI through the battle, it might be a unique experience at least? Might've been a case where you needed to 'follow the fun', but maybe that's just me.

ImmanentDeath responds:

Honestly, this whole game was just my attempt at salvaging an idea. I wanted to make a generic video game and put my own spin on it. But it was rushed and overscoped. There's a lot more I wanted to add or change, but I just couldn't.

It is supposed to be a game where you just goof around with another player or the AI for as long as you want, and either laugh or get frustrated when one of you does something silly, by accident or on purpose. You are supposed to get hurt and fall off cliffs because losing is fun. I wanted it to feel like you and your partner are in this together against this broken universe.

Wow, quite the cool puzzle game you got here! For the most part it feels very well-put together and professionally made, bursting at the seams with a lot of content: impressive stuff!

In particular, I love how fun it is to move the player character around: gives me Pizza Tower vibes with how how animated and expressive they are which not only helps with making actions clear to distinguish, but makes certain actions, like slamming blocks down, very satisfying to pull off again and again. Speaking of satisfaction, the game, while not overly explosive in its pizazz, does still feature a lot of those subtle touches, such as playing a sequentially higher-pitched sound for chain bonuses. While it is a bit overwhelming to grasp their entire moveset at first, I enjoyed the challenge of getting it down and becoming not only more effective at scoring, but stylish in doing so. Again, it just overall feels well put-together and fun to play!

As mentioned, if there is one downside to this game, is that it can be a bit rough to grasp at first. To be fair, most of the design is rather intuitive and will be familiar to players of games like Puyo-Puyo and the like, but there are certain aspects that kept catching me off-guard despite seeing them multiple times, such as how similar color blocks will stick while others fall, how you need a full shape and not lines or columns of colors to score, how you can't grab blocks when standing by them despite the character doing the grab animation, and I'd just plain forget I had a lot of moves like dashing and attacking.

Similar to that is the tutorial, which can be rather overwhelming due to how verbose and jam-packed it can be. Kudos to making the tutorial very interactive and visual, and I appreciate trying to explain all the various oddities the game has, but it was just so much and that very same interactivity could screw me over at times where suddenly the text would move onto something else when I wasn't done reading it. If I were to have a suggestion, it would be to have the tutorial not be a single huge overwhelming sequence, but several split-up chapters, some for very basic gameplay and others for advanced techniques and special cases: a player could just do the basic chapters and get into play faster, coming back to the advanced chapters if they spot something confusing when playing, and it'd be much easier to just look up something specific without having to do everything from the start. In addition to that, I think there were a lot of cases where text could be more concise or replaced with a picture, or split up into separate pages to make it look less dense, and some things are just so obvious you don't need to waste time explaining.

Still, the initial process of learning the game, while it could be improved, wasn't that bad and it wasn't too long before I got into the game and had a bunch of fun!

zeddy1267 responds:

Thanks for your kind words! The movement is definitely the part I care most about, since I do really enjoy platformer's that play well.

Yes, the tutorial/general introduction to the game is definitely the roughest part. The game, being a unique/gimmicky puzzle game, can take a moment to wrap your head around at first. This is partly why I made the tutorial as verbose as it is. Think of it more like the included instruction book rather than a quick tutorial. It's the full, unskippable documentation.

I certainly WANT to improve the tutorial in some way. If I had to do this again, I'd something along the lines of making a short interactive tutorial to just quickly introduce you to the game, and then have the rest of the text stored in a separate in game handbook. Quickstart & full documentation.

I ultimately decided to leave the tutorial as-is. Since this is more of a demo for a true Viva Hexagon! game, I didn't spend too much time on the tutorial. For example, something I really want to do is a single player arcade mode/campaign, like what Puyo-Puyo has. This is something I want to tie tutorial into in some way or another (even just stuff like quick tips between stages). Not being able to do this in the current state of Viva Hexagon! (No arcade mode) definitely made me spend less time on the tutorial than I probably should have.

The tutorial is also just the most difficult code to work with, since it's very fragile. I realized the flaws with the tutorial, but just couldn't be bothered to fix them in this release of the game.

TL;DR yeah, I'm aware of how overwhelming the tutorial is. Thanks for the feedback!

Wow, really impressive stuff here! Really gives me Severed Steel vibes with the way you've setup these really fun and frantic firefights where you're constantly on your toes, diving through gunfire and grabbing whatever guns you can get your hands on when you've run dry. The Madness vibes are great as well with all the cool gore, varied executions, and tons of weapons to try out. I also liked some of the crazy systems in play, like getting tac bar back if you dive through gunfire, making effective use of it very rewarding. Again, really neat stuff!

Unfortunately, while I think that the game is pretty cool, I'd say it is more cool in how it has loads of potential, as its current setup is just way too rough and unrefined:

*While it starts out alright, as the game went on it felt like combat was just way too fast and confusing to keep track of. The combination of enemies suddenly being able to spawn out from monster closets wherever and whenever, enemies always being aggressively locked right onto you and firing undodgeable hitscan weapons, the player getting practically no feedback from damage (especially tac bar damage compared to health), not being able to keep track of enemies positions through things like footsteps which are absent, and so on and so forth made a lot of fights frustrating messes where you just get constantly killed before you realize and can't do anything except trial-and-error memorization.

*Diving could've been the savior of the combat here, especially since it looked like you were going in the right direction with being rewarded for good dives and making it possible to tactically chain them together. But without slow-mo for a dive, it felt pointless as it was impossible to get any accurate shots off during, and despite always trying to dive through shots, it didn't feel reliable to get the tac bar reward, leaving me unfairly high and dry. The worse part as well was how absolutely terrible it felt to hit space and C to dive: just make it its own button for gods sake, like shift!

*There was also tons of jank with the game. For example, ammo counters were incredibly unreliable as it seems like they don't update until you fire the gun: whenever I picked up ammo from the ground or picked up a dual wield weapon or swapped from a dual wield weapon to a new single one, the old ammo counters would remain what they were before until I fired, making me think I had more or less ammo than I did. Not ideal for frantic firefights like this where every bullet counts and I need to know what I have! Weapon management was annoying as well: when you run out of ammo for dual wields, why can't I throw my weapons like I do for single guns? Is there a way I can swap back to single from dual? And so on and so forth.

*Also it felt like the game lost the whole central hotdog mechanic? Felt like it was so important initially before being thrown away. It's ok as a gag but the idea of having to tactically use these 'berserk' powerups could be iterated upon.

*There's also the fact that the camera can bug out and turn way more than you wanted at times: I don't think its necessarily an issue on your part through as lots of these HTML FPS games have this bug for some reason or other.

I really do want to love this game: I think it has loads of potential to become a Madness version of Severed Steel or Trepang2 or so on, but the general combat is just too awkward and unrefined at the moment. If the inventory/ammo management was fixed, slow-mo was added to dives, enemy AI and spawning was refined, and so on, I think this would be some top shelf stuff. Please continue to polish this up as I want this to be great!

frdy responds:

Thank you for the detailed feedback! This was exactly what I was looking for. I'm struggling with the control scheme, since there's a big balancing act with keeping as few keybinds as necessary while maximizing the amount of control players have. A dedicated dive button is a super common request.
Dual weapons are a very tricky design problem. I had many ideas for how running empty with them should be handled.
At one point, I created an animation for switching the gun in your left hand to the one in your right hand if you ran out of ammo for the right gun. If I wanted to retain all of the features of single guns (bashing, turning into a melee weapon when empty), that'd require an entire new set of animations and a lot of extra programming, which I didn't have time for.
If having one empty gun while you're dual wielding were to let you bash/throw while you could still control the loaded gun as normal, there'd have to be a choice -- have the respective mouse button either bash or throw.
I think I just rubberducked. Letting you throw the empty gun would work.

Would you like to join my development discord server? https://discord.gg/DVprYTP8p
I seriously appreciate any sort of blunt feedback.

Hmm, this unfortunately felt quite rough to me.

It definitely had a pretty solid first impression, as the general gunplay, gore, weapon swapping and so on seemed great: felt and looked pretty smooth and well-animated, and it was very satisfying and fun to blow people away with guns and watch their gibs and blood fly all over the place. Certainly feels like you've built a decent core array of assets.

However, while the game showed a lot of potential initially, the gameplay itself very quickly just ended up feeling very bland, simple and repetitive, making it all feel like a very style over substance situation.

Once you play the game for a minute or so, it felt like you've seen everything it has to offer. It just felt so tiresome to run around this maze chasing these Sheriff clones, spamming the dodge button over and over to keep up with them. The world felt so dry and annoying to navigate, and the way enemies were spaced out made the flow of combat very awkward: sometimes you'd have huge patches of time with no action, then suddenly you get this mass of enemies all bundled together. It looks like the game might have a clown boss later on, but I just didn't have the patience to get there.

Upgrades were very boring as well, not only being the same three things but they didn't add anything to the gameplay and were typically so minor as to be unnoticeable. As enemies start to get guns later on, combat gets more annoying since the cramped corridors combined with the fast bullets means dodging is practically impossible and you just take so much chip damage, especially since you need to chase the Sheriff.

Melee feels absolutely terrible. I can understand having melee be a bit weak to drive the player towards seeking out guns, but even if that was the case, it's just too rough here. The range is so short n' stubby and there's no stun/knockback for hitting people so you frustratingly can't deal damage without taking damage, making it feel pointless.

The game also had a bunch of glitches, such as invincible enemies that would phase through walls for some reason or other.

Again, it has a lot of potential for some good Madness-style shooting action as it does a lot of things right in terms of combat, but the core gameplay loop of chasing Sheriffs around this maze just made wore me down and bored me quickly: with a better world and more interesting objectives/events, I believe this could be very nice.

Aalasteir responds:

Thank you, your thoughts are greatly appreciated and insightful.

Not too shabby! Seems like a nice little puzzler, primarily focused on finding the right order of operations to take for untangling a series of wires, which can be quite satisfying to pull off and very meditative and chill, accentuated by the music and graphics (particularly the background).

It wasn't really hooking me in at the beginning, but once it started introducing things like splitters and track switchers and upping the complexity in general, it got me good. Level design felt solid: not only did the progression of difficulty feel nice and smooth (though as mentioned, a bit of a slow start), but I also felt like the levels did a great job at subtly introducing and teaching new mechanics very intuitively.

All in all, the bite-size levels, chill atmosphere, good sense of progression and just general polish/craftsmanship made the game very addictive and more-ish and I found it very hard to put down despite these types of games not being my wheelhouse: nice work!

ThreeTreesEU responds:

The first levels are indeed easy, as they serve as the tutorial basically.

They get more complex as new elements are intorduces, and a lot more complex later in the game (Mobile/Steam versions have 150 levels with the later ones being a lot larger and intriguing).

Interesting little hacky-slashy game! It's pretty fun and addictive in how fast-paced and simplistic the general gameplay (combat and looting) is, but unfortunately it feels rather shallow and short-lived: once you've played one level of it you've pretty much seen everything.

As said, there definitely is a lot of potential here: while it is rather simple, that very same simplicity allows the game to never slow down and just keep you moving forward, and the game does attempt to vary things up with certain special events like scrolling rooms, hidden tunnels, and all sorts of equipment. There's a certain smoothness to everything as well: movement/animation feels very slick and the combat feedback is decently satisfying. And the music is a jam as well, to top it all off.

However, as said before, the game gets old quite fast and just ends up feeling repetitive. There's just an overall lack of feeling like you're actually progressing in a meaningful way, which should be the core conceit of these kind of games. Yes, the colors may change, but I was disappointed to see the same enemy types just get recycled over and over with higher stats, the same bosses with the same patterns, the same weapons and trinkets, the same rooms, and so on, with nothing new being introduced. The numbers may technically be moving behind the scenes, but nothing is changing since they all move in tandem: it's meaningless. Compared to something like Risk of Rain or Isaac, the equipment we get doesn't stack to create fun combinations, but instead just constantly gets replaced, keeping us static. It especially doesn't matter anyway since everything is just boring stat increases instead of fun abilities that would change your playstyle significantly.

In addition to that, there are some minor things that get in the way. The stat menu is very boring to look at since its just a bunch of text: it's practically a debug console instead of something the player should see, where's the nice equipment inventory tiles that you can mouse over for info and such? If an item drops at the edge of the screen, you can't even read what its tooltip says because it bleeds over the edge. Those same descriptions can be confusing too: a cape says it gives you +atk spd and its a trinket, but a claw says it gives you +atk spd but its a weapon when I thought it was a trinket. Speaking of trinkets, if I have two slots, why can't I pick which trinket gets replaced when I pick it up somehow? Finally there's just a lot of confusion where enemies can suddenly do more damage than you think they would, there's so many acronyms and shortened text that makes it hard to decipher, and so on. Balance is also a bit of a mess with weapons like the staff being just too useful.

Definitely feel like it could be something fun with more polish, balance and content, however! The core seen here is quite decent and ripe for expansion.

ErikSwahn responds:

Glad for your response on the game! Currently it is not meant to be super deep and I think renaming it to "Rogueblast Prototype" could be more fitting. I have uploaded a project file so people can edit my game in Construct 2, which lets people use this idea to expand it more. I am glad to hear about the critique though as it helps me with upcoming games :)

The project file can be found on my patreon page for free!

Wow, quite the good puzzle game we got here!

For the most part, it feels solid in all aspects: an intriguing core concept of leg durability meaning you need to carefully assess each move, overall pleasant presentation and controls, smooth escalation of difficulty that hooks the player both with great tricks to keep them on their toes (like having to intentionally break themselves when you'd think you should always keep yourself healthy) and tons of new mechanics like grass and bouncepads that are taught to the player very intuitively, and bonus content that serves up additional fun challenges to go for. I was easily hooked!

If I were to have any complaints:

*I felt like the grass, which serves as a soft landing pad, could've been something else a bit more intuitive like snow. Snow would pop out a bit more strongly visibly (the dull green of the grass can easily blend into the dull brown environment) and more easily represent the quality of 'softness'. Would've also loved if landing on grass or snow played a soft sound effect, like a puff, to more accurately declare its use: maybe even have a puff come up visually as well. Bouncepads could also use some sound effects when you use them. But then again, the way you set up the level teaches the grass quite well, so I might be complaining about nothing.

*One big constant and confusing annoyance I had was picking up repair kits mid-jump and having you not have full durability at the end of the jump. Yes, if the repair kit is hanging up in the air and you grab it mid-jump, it makes some sense that landing after the jump will result in your having damaged legs, not full legs. But when there is a repair kit on the ground and you land on top of it from a jump, I feel like that should give you full legs, not damaged legs: so silly to have the very minute gap between grabbing it and landing count as damage.

*Also I found it a little silly that it represents the levels that still have a battery to collect with a pip: usually I feel like common sense would make it so the levels that I have collected the battery in would be the ones that have a pip, not the blank ones, as blank usually represents a neutral state. Also a bit strange that if you beat level 9, but not level 10 yet, the level select will have level 10 as a question mark, when I feel like it should be 10 since you are on it, similar to how the game starts with level 1 as not a question mark because its the one you're on. But whatever, got used to it!

*I did have a few glitches come up, like when I fell onto an elevator platform and instead of landing, it kept me on top of the elevator in a falling state.

KanartStudio responds:

Thank you soooo much for the review and feedback.

I agree with you 100% about the grass. It blends in a lot, but I couldn't think of anything else that would fit in this trashy/post-apocalyptic environment of the game. I actually added sound to the grass and the trampolines, but I didn't have the time to upload it yet. I also added a better tutorial since some people were having trouble understanding some of the game's mechanics.

About the repair kits, I actually thought about this during the development phase of the game. I tested the robot not losing a leg after falling on a Repair kit, but I felt that something was wrong because this was basically canceling the player's momentum from the fall. So, I went with a more realistic approach: if you fall, you still experience the momentum and break your leg when you hit the floor. You are not wrong tho, the game freezes a frame and slows you down when you collect a repair kit (something that I added later to improve the game feel). This really gives a false sense of security when falling, but by the time I realized that, I already had a bunch of maps πŸ’€.

Those glitches are actually very rare, so rare that I couldn't find a consistent way to reproduce them. It's kinda hard to fix issues like these, but it's something that I will keep in mind for my next game.

Still working at it, bit-by-bit.

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