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Hey, pretty impressive stuff here! For the most part, it really feels like you're pulling off that retro platformer vibe and delivering a classic experience. Overall the game feels very well-constructed and polished, especially in terms of the graphics and sounds. Even though the second level was a bit of a spike in difficulty, I had fun making my way through, and look forward to its future development!

Having said that, though...if I have to be brutally honest, the game didn't "spark joy" if you get my drift, as after the initially strong impression of the retro aesthetic wore off, the actual core gameplay felt, well, pretty dang generic and a bit boring. Not only did the game completely lack any sort of unique or fun core mechanic to spice things up, but the game's jumping and shooting just felt a bit lackluster, lacking the raw explosive satisfaction that other retro games provide.

Sorry I'm being a bit vague as it's hard to put into exact words for what the sweet science is: perhaps this is something that could be easily fixed up with better FX, but I'm unsure. I love playing a lot of retro games nowadays like Shovel Knight, Cyber Shadow, and so on, and while on the surface level this looks like it should compete with them and their mechanics are not so unique either, this lacks...something, that special gamefeel that they have.

If it helps, the only reason I'm being so harsh is because I think the game has a lot of potential, so I hope I've provided some food for thought! Best of luck in developing this!

WLCSoft responds:

Thanks for being honest about the game! Yeah, the mechanics are pretty basic here. 😅 I have little experience on game developing. I'm working alone, except for the people who made the music, and I didn't know anything about the engine I'm using (GDevelop) before starting this project, so I had to learn from zero and on the fly. That's why I decided to keep it kinda generic. Something simple enough to make while learning. Maybe my next games will come with unique mechanics, at least extra movements like dash and double jump. But for now I'll have to keep it simple or I won't be able to finish it at all. That said, I'm working on stage 3 and I have new ideas for challenges that could make the gameplay feel a little less boring. Anyway, I'm glad you say the game looks good, at least on surface, because I have much more experience with art than with making games, so I put a lot of effort to make it look well polished. I'll take in consideration all the feedback I've received and I think the final version of the game will be better. Thanks again! 😄

Hmm, I really want to like this game, but my first impression of it was pretty rough!

I definitely do think there is a lot to like here. Sure, the platforming is a little generic, being your standard hop-n-bop with simple upgrades like dashes, but the world felt very mysterious and stylish with the way you rendered it, and I was very curious to see where the story goes. I also think that the gameplay was doing a decent job at keeping things interesting by constantly introducing new elements: breakable blocks, wall jumps, boss battles, upgrades, and so on! I also liked some of the creative enemy patterns, such as the blockers who need to be air juggled, and the cute sound effects for movement/footsteps.

But on the other hand, the gameplay and controls just felt kind of awkward and I was finding it difficult to get used to. There's just so many little things that crop up that don't allow me to get into a flow state with movement: for example, there's this weird delay where you don't cling to a wall immediately but have to wait until you start moving downward, the wall jump controls are odd in that just pressing the movement key without jump makes you jump and there's no way to drop down from a wall cling, there's no coyote time which constantly makes me miss my edge jumps, the way my dash keeps firing off if I try to jump a little too early from hitting the ground, combat feels kind of weird with its hitboxes and knockback, and so on.

There were also just some really weird design decisions, like why is the inventory so limited? Why would I ever want to remove an essential upgrade like being able to dash with some boring passive regen/lifesteal?

All of the above were things I was slowly getting used to, and like I said, I was still intrigued by the story and world, so I was going to keep playing. Or at least I was, until I decided to take a quick break, and was then shocked to realize that, despite the game having very obvious rest benches which you would think would save the game, did not save it at all, and I was forced to start all the way back at the beginning when I came back. Perhaps it is technically not a long game if you play it straight through, but still, why in the world is there no save/continue system?

EDIT: Ok, whew, there is a load/continue option, it's just hidden in the corner for some reason instead of just being front-and-center with the start button. Why in the world...well, if it's there, at the very least I can finish this game! Thank god it didn't erase my data when I started up again after missing it the first time.

That...was a pretty weird ending. I feel like it was trying to be real emotional, but it was such a last-minute exposition dump that it really didn't connect with me. I have no idea what moving the clouds was doing? How...odd.

ErikSwahn responds:

Glad you played it through! I will remember the feedback you gave. I agree with most except the coyote jump mechanic but I do not like it in other games either. It is very good to hear feedback about the story as I am new to that. There should have been more of a "build up" towards the end to make it feel less random and more impactful. I have learned that it is easier to judge than to create good work on your own. Thanks for your review :)

Cute little art collab! Wonderful to see so much entries within this: couldn't believe the way it just kept going and going! Very well done on wrangling all of this together and getting some positivity out there.

Now I give you the loveliest gift I can think of, which is brutally honest feedback (the love nobody asks for, haha):

*The general interface is a bit of an eyesore where everything kind of blends together in bright colors, making certain features like the Previous/Next buttons difficult to read and not pop to the foreground as much as they should. Mayhaps a little bit of desaturation of the background, outlining of text, and other simple elements would help readability.

*I was a bit bummed that the collab chose a very basic slideshow presentation instead of opting for something really creative. I got a bit interested with the heart and candy box on the side as I thought that maybe they had some sort of interesting powers, like the heart being some sort of voting system or maybe sending a message to the artist, and the candy box being some sort of button to go to a random valentine or get commentary from the artist, but it seems like they're just kind of there for no important purpose. I think a more creative presentation would help viewer retention, as without some sort of interesting gimmick, I wouldn't blame a lot of people for getting bored halfway!

*There is some missing functionality that I feel should be present, such as a gallery view, zoom/pan functions for viewing the art, and being able to easily click on the artist's name to go to their NG profile for potential follows and seeing the art in its original NG page (if possible) for potential votes. I feel like more love gets spread this way when you make things easier to interface with!

*It's wonderful that you have so many entries for this, but because the list is so long and it is alphabetically sorted, I feel bad for whoever's username starts with letters like X, Y or Z as I think they're going to get absolutely shafted in that a lot of people probably won't have the patience to get to their entries at the end. Perhaps it would've been better if there were some sort of big thumbnail gallery view where you can see many at once and click on them for more details, or a search function, or maybe the list should be randomly sorted (perhaps you could even make a fun gimmick out of the randomness, like make a mailbox gacha machine that gives letters which you open up to see their cards).

Again, well done on this and your heart's in the right place, but yeah, I'm a big nitpicker and want art collabs to do more than just the bare minimum!

wamyremy responds:

omfg am i gonna be in a FutureCopLGF video.....

(actually probably not, my entry's like wayy too far on the other end LMAO)

but thank you for the feedback! <3

SkellART responds:

I was hoping that the heart was a voting system too at first but hey maybe next year will bring something a little different.

Maybe next year the candy box could serve to take you to the Artist's profile instead of having to scroll down to find it.

Questtrek responds:

Thank you for the constructive criticism; I completely agree. When I initially reviewed this collab, I described the UI as "cute", and while I still stand by that, that does not mean I think that it is good. The colors clash, and it's hard to read the text.

I mentioned wow I liked "the little animations", but I was really only referring to the start button with hearts. While I do like those animations, I wish there was more, specifically when flipping through art. Maybe the art could pop a little bit every time it switches, something more energetic than the switching of a PNG.

There's too many people for a simple slideshow. One idea I suggested (in another response) was to randomize the order of everyone's art each time the flash game is started, so that way even people further down the alphabet will be seen.

Also, Flash. While I do love things made with Flash, I don't think it was the right call here. There's a lot of assets, and it's at a high resolution. Several people complained of long load times and/or lag. This should have been done as a Unity or Godot game, or something else that doesn't have to be sent through ruffle first.

Also the fact that there is no button to mute the music is annoying. I don't hate the music, but a choice to disable it would have been nice.

BlueKnightSkeleton responds:

Yeah, idk why but i thought the little hearts would be for a voting thing lol, but yeah, cool opinion.

BoiledMilkz responds:

nice review.

TheFandomKid responds:

Thank you for the review man, glad you shared your honest opinion :)
Have a nice day!

zombehattack responds:

As one of the poor sods with a z username, I appreciate that last point a lot XD.

KhaosKitsune617 responds:

thanks for feedback. also i believe a reaction system should be implemented

Huh, quite the interesting game you got here! I was really worried at first as it seemed a bit simplistic and a bit janky, but I was impressed at how addicted I got to scaling this tower! Something about how you have such a large and diverse cast of enemies and traps, each with their own unique patterns to contend and exploit, and combine that with trying to get coins and the mind-bending nature of using the screen edges to teleport: it creates a really cool puzzle adventure where I loved figuring out the appropriate route to make it through each screen! Not only does it keeps escalating in terms of gameplay mechanics, it does so as well with the weirdness of its story and cool music to create quite the memorable experience. Well done!

Having said that, though, the game is pretty rough and janky, as mentioned before. In terms of feedback:

*There was some jankiness and such in terms of hitboxes being a bit ill-defined and movements being a bit weird, but more so than that, it was so janky that I had a point where I got awkwardly shoved off the screen by some attacks and was stuck in limbo: unable to restart but unable to continue either, moving around in some void jail but unable to get back to the stage proper. Luckily I was still early in the game so it didn't hurt much to quit and full restart, but boy, it felt super unfair and if I was further along, that woulda been quits for me.

*Speaking of the above, it was a real bummer that this game has no save/continue option. It has checkpoints, yes, but if you close the game and come back to it, it puts you all the way back at the start, and while the game might not technically be that long, it just feels bizarre to not include such an option (especially since it would've saved me from that crash!)

*As much as I wanted to collect coins and get items and such, it just felt pointless and not worth the risk since 1) death is plentiful and resets your coins and 2) I couldn't tell what kind of item I was even buying due to a lack of information, and it was such a big risk to spend so much to try something out and get a whole heap of nothing, like that time I bought the red coin 2 pack and I still have no idea what they even did. I like the incentive to get coins as an extra challenge, but I dunno if having an item shop is necessary in this, with the way its been setup.

*While I generally liked all of the enemies and how diverse they were, there were still a couple that felt really bad, like the sudden rocks that would come from off-screen and explode: I get that its an increase in difficulty, but I dunno, it just felt unfair in how you need to memorize it and can't see any sort of telegraph for it so as to help keep it in mind, like how spikes will still have a minimal presence on the stage even when they are retracted.

DaShahRach00 responds:

Hey ! Thank you very much for this review, it is very useful !
mentioned the shop as poorly rewarding for getting parts, thank you for putting the word out there. I should have made sure to provide information on the items we are taking before purchasing them. (ps the red coin when used transforms all the coins visible on the screen into double coins)
And I note the need to have a game that saves for future games!
We will pay more attention to crash issues like this for future games! I'm glad that despite this you continued the game.
Thank you for playing it! And I'm glad you enjoyed the experience ^^

Pretty neat little break-the-targets arcade-y pinball experience! Overall the game feels quite flashy and fun with great menus and fun characters that brighten up the experience with their unique animations and backgrounds as well as their informative callouts, like when you're on your last ball. Certainly an improvement from the previous version!

Having said that, though, I'm still a bit down on it in some regards:

*Pinball is all about pizazz for me, and while this is an improvement from the previous version in terms of that, it still felt quite lackluster in a lot of regards. Potentially exciting powerups like slow-mo felt pointless in their usage and nukes felt limp with the way they just clear the screen with no exciting explosive sounds or visuals. A bonus round is usually something that shakes things up significantly and feels like a celebration and a reward, but here, barely anything changes, most notably the music stays the same, and the collection of coins doesn't feel that gratifying. Certain elements like winning the time challenge for a board or racking up big points should be broadcast to the player, but instead are being stuck in the corner where you might not even notice them.

*The gameplay also just feels kind of stale to me: the lack of pizazz as explained above contributes to that, but more so I feel like the game easily gets repetitive as the board only changes itself in very minor ways from level to level, with the main board construction not changing at all and lacking any sort of exciting elements like ramps, additional paddles, and so on. There are no significant changes to music, the board construction, your character or background, and so forth, to give a sense of progression, and the minor changes to the target patterns and introduction of elements like purple barriers felt like impediments rather than interesting additions.

It's a decent game that I feel has loads of potential, and so I can't help but wish for more!

CubePunks responds:

*As far as overlay elements go. Being mobile compatible, it had to be portrait rather than landscape with the hud being on the boarders optimizing screen space. Because of that, a lot of elements like the text overlay and character had to share the same real-estate as the game board; so the goal was lots of movement without distraction making gameplay hard to manage.

The Nuke is a good example: when shaking the screen violently on impact, that half second distortion can make a player loose track of the ball and then get a fallout (happened in testing). That level of player frustration would drop a review a few stars.

I reserved the timer and the score counter to the corners cause they're persistently available, having movement to not be too static but out of view that they don't distract from gameplay. I feel character reaction audio and animation make vision indicator that adding "text overlay of extra points from a time bonus in center focus" redundant and a poor use of real-estate.


*As far as board changing (not just layout changing) goes - its something I'd love to do ; but there's two barriers on that.

1- Game design: Layouts change but your ball never resets until a fallout, which gives the game a lot of the kinetic fun. As is, having that seamless feeling clashes if your foundational board elements spontaneously move on you. Some design work would have to be done to see how to have it not lead to player frustration.

2- Budget: I treat my browser games as demos/vertical slices I can put in a portfolio with hope that one day I can get the resources to expand the idea into a larger package. While everything is still self funded, I'd rather have spend (and have been spending) recent years establishing a variety of ideas rather than a refinement of a single one. This doesn't mean I don't ever want to revisit this game with updates (like I have the foundations to plug in new characters if I want) but a gameplay expansion requires a level of work on par with making another small game.

So either I need to be in a spot where I'd rather invest in an expansion over a new game (and I just did that with Deluxe being a ground up remake of the 1st) OR I need help (publisher, dev team and marketing) making a paid version that'd expand to a 5/5

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Either way, I want to revisit PinBall Breaker again in the future; so an expansion will happen IDK when.

- KageKMB

Hmm, quite the interesting game, feeling like a cowboy-themed top-down turn-based version of SuperHot! Coming to terms with how the combat system works and the addictive nature of experimenting with the various weapons you have certainly hooked me, and the game overall felt like it had a decent amount of polish, what with its nice HUD and special effects.

However, in its current state, I find the execution of its interesting ideas a bit rough:

The game was difficult in not letting me get enough information. For example, while I can see info on guns when I'm buying them, I was annoyed that I couldn't see information on guns that are in my inventory, and the gun info was incomplete, lacking details like the cooldown between shots. I found it confusing too that gun info only appears when you mouse over an item, when I feel like it should happen when you walk over it instead (or perhaps both). Speaking of, I would've loved to have more information, such as seeing a preview for attacks and explosion radiuses and so on since I wasn't sure how they'd play out, as well as seeing enemy health amounts. Other aspects were a bit confusing, such as how some enemies will fire in a rigid cardinal direction cross formation, yet they will still point a gun in your exact direction as if they're going to fire directly at you like other enemies do.

The game also just felt a bit lackluster at times. The levels felt incredibly cramped and claustrophic which made all of the gun fights quite boring as you have no space to move around strategically. It was really easy to run out of ammo and get in a dead-man-walking vibe where you just don't have anything to fight with and no cash to buy more guns since it disappears almost immediately from when it drops: would much prefer picking up guns/ammo from enemies or chests instead of buying as I think it would help create more improvisation.

Again, really interesting ideas you got here, just don't feel like its been executed in the best way yet, but best of luck!

RaspberryJamGames responds:

Thank you so much for the detailed feedback!
I am currently working on a new version of the game for Early Access, which will address a lot of your issues.

I intend to add tooltips to the inventory, extra tooltip info (such as cooldowns) and also tooltips for when you walk over an item.
I hadn't thought about attack previews, that's a good idea.
It feels like showing enemy health might clutter the screen to much, but I could give enemies their own tooltips.

I'm sorry that the levels feel cramped - At some point I want to revamp the level generation, so I'll keep that in mind.
About the money disappearing, that's quite a common criticism and I'm trying out some alternatives, but I still want people to play aggressively, rushing to get money as soon as it drops.

Thanks again for the feedback.
I agree with almost everything you've said and I will keep on improving the game.

Nice to see another chapter of this! Certainly a promising sonic-esque platformer that you're building up here, and it seems to get a bit better each time I see it. I'll just give you some play-by-play impressions as I went through:

Level 1: Decent level, basic stuff, very easy, but good to start off and get used to everything. Does feel a bit silly at times though, like how you can be standing right next to a rock wall and hit roll to smash through it: you'd almost expect to have to charge up or build up momentum. Can get health back so easy I practically don't need to think about it. Again, though, fine to be forgiving starting out.

Level 1 Cow Boss: Good variety of attacks, but sometimes it felt really confusing to figure out when you're free to hit him. Had loads of times when I tried to attack him right when he finished an attack, but he'd suddenly transform into a new attack right when I hit him and I get damaged instead.

Level 2 Snow Stage: Nice to see so many new mechanics like rails and see-saws. Can't really get a handle on rails, end up losing speed and coming to a stop, slipping around, reversing, feels awkward. Some nice puzzle sections like where you need to use the seesaw to make a ramp to get up...oh, maybe not and I'm just supposed to wall jump? That's a bit of a letdown. I appreciate the increase in challenge but it just started to get really annoying with so many see-saws and snowballs rolling down: a real uphill battle, pardon the pun. Felt like I was playing those annoying Hoth levels on Super Empire Strikes Back, it's just too much and I end up wanting to facetank through it!

Level 2 Hat Boss: Decent, fun animations, certainly easier to determine when I can attack compared to the first boss, but he was a disappointing one-trick pony.

Level 3 Mirror Stage: What a cool level! Love the whole puzzle element of having to look in the mirror to see invincible platforms and hazards reflected. I wanted more of this! Though, sometimes it was a bit annoying to be speeding along and suddenly you're in a mirror and you hit some spikes in the mirror you couldn't see coming. Speed and these puzzles don't mix well at times I guess.

Level 3 Eye Lasers: Again, I appreciate the increase in difficulty and having a unique race challenge, but I literally cannot beat this. Not only do a lot of the courses feel like annoying trial-and-error, but some courses I do not physically know how to build up enough speed to get away. I feel like maybe I'm missing some sort of hidden tech I'm suppose to learn about how to accelerate or something: maybe this is why I was having trouble with the rails earlier on, maybe I'm missing something. I tried everything though: spamming roll, spamming jumps while rolling, jumping and hitting down into a roll, backtracking to build up a head of steam, nothing works!

Side note: if you jump straight up when next to a wall, I don't think you could wall-cling to it unless you physically move towards the wall. Since this game doesn't do that, the character can feel too clingy.

Alzter responds:

Hi again! Thank you for playing my game and giving honest feedback, I really appreciate it!!

Level 2 Snow Stage: I'm sorry to hear that the grind rails were frustrating and unintuitive to use. A friend suggested I make it so that the player can turn around whilst on them, maybe I will have to make that possible for them to feel less uncontrollable and awkward like you said.

As for the seesaws, yes, initially I wanted the player to use the seesaw like a ramp, but I couldn't implement the behaviour well enough for it to work on its own, but clearly that's no excuse and having the mechanic not implemented in the way you expected was a letdown, so I will see if I can improve it to work more like a ramp in future.

Level 3 Eye Lasers: Damn, that's a shame that it's not intuitive or clear how to gain speed to escape the eye lasers. I will need to add some way of teaching the player how to move rapidly before this section so that they don't get stuck here like you did. If you're still stuck, try mashing the roll button whilst you are rolling, it gives you a short boost in speed, and tell me if you can beat the section using that technique.

Can't get to all of your points just yet, but I will say, if you want to disable Moomoo clinging to walls automatically without having to push towards them, turn off Assist Mode in the settings.

EDIT 28/03/24: I have decided to make the Gazers (eye lasers) NOT immediately kill you. They now only deal 1 damage like other enemies. This means that you are not FORCED to know speed techniques (which are not yet well taught to the player) in order to make it to Chapter 2's boss.

Huh, this is a pretty neat metroidvania! It's a bit of a mixed bag at the moment, but overall the general construction feels pretty solid, impressive and shows loads of potential.

As a big fan of games like Sekiro, this game's focus on parries and deflections is right up my alley. The feedback from a timed deflection was sublime and made it very satisfying to style on these mooks, and the fight against the boss was a big highlight for me, being such a great back-and-forth due to how aggressive he was and so cool to parry his combos and sword waves back at them. The other design mechanics that reward aggression and style with bonus resources were great too, and it felt good to get new trinkets and powerups.

Having said that, though, the game was a bit bland when it came to other aspects. In particular, the sense of exploration was not so good: plodding along with no fun traversal powers through these cramped cave corridors that are largely devoid of any landmarks or fun platforming, instead just packed with the same spongy enemies over and over...it got pretty repetitive and felt like a slog. Combat also dragged because it just turned into the enemies waiting their turn to get parried by me over and over: I ended up just running past them! Sure, there are a few sidepaths with some trinkets locked behind combat here and there, but it didn't so much for the overall slow feel of it all.

It's up to you on whether the above is a problem and how you'd want to solve this. For example, perhaps making the environments a bit prettier and varied would be enough. Or, perhaps enemies could have their health reduced so they don't reduce the players pace, letting skilled players cut through them like butter. Maybe there needs to be more exciting traversal like slides, fast falls, dashes, wall jumps, and so on. Maybe there just needs to be more puzzles or challenging platforming sections to serve as a contrast to the combat. Maybe more interesting attack patterns for both the enemy and the player could help, particularly if both the attacks and level design were more vertical instead of being so grounded. Again, up to you, and best of luck as this does have some great core elements already in place!

MonsiStudios responds:

Thanks for your feedback! :)

It has a certain goofy charm to it and could be a decent top-down horde shooter, but overall the game just felt a bit too simplistic and bland, leading to feeling rather repetitive and unsatisfying. The boss fight at the end was pretty interesting, but also felt rather unfair in how unpredictable it could be, particularly due to lack of telegraphs when initiating or disengaging from a pattern: I suppose I'm partly to fault and should've gotten more speed/health upgrades instead of damage, but I'm not going to play the whole game again to make better choices because of a trap like that.

Fish125 responds:

Thank you for the feedback! We hope you can find it in your heart to keep an eye on us and our future endeavors

Wow, for being just a prototype, this was a delightful precision platformer! In general the construction of the game seemed high-quality: the graphics and presentation were very cute, the movement felt smooth, the jump mechanics were interesting and intuitive (and had some sweet hidden tech to them), and the level design was challenging and had multiple paths/shortcuts for the speedrunners. Once I beat it the first time, I had to go back and redo it a second time: it just felt that fun! I find it very promising and would love to see a full version of this.

In terms of feedback, the only bugginess I noticed was that if you scrape a corner of a platform but don't necessarily land on it, sometimes it can act a bit odd, refilling your ammo or ignoring your jump input.

So far I've gotten it down to about 2 minutes flat!

ShortCakeCafe responds:

Thank you for your feedback!
Me and a team of classmates are actually working on a full version of this game as our final college project and are planning to release it on steam once it's done!

Still working at it, bit-by-bit.

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